tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post1007195116370386538..comments2024-03-26T00:37:34.943+01:00Comments on Venezuela News And Views: Chavismo in crisis, unraveling next?Danielhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12128609182544333477noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-74749212596065442462013-04-22T17:59:28.729+02:002013-04-22T17:59:28.729+02:00Oh, that makes perfect sense, I thought you had so...Oh, that makes perfect sense, I thought you had something specific against the 99 Constitution. I'm a lawyer and personally don't have anything against it besides the extra possibilities it grants the president via "Habilitante", but you're right, this country would be exactly the same were the 61 Constitution still alive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-13798457164175000102013-04-22T02:29:11.899+02:002013-04-22T02:29:11.899+02:00Hi Daniel, what about an Opposition Cloud, just as...Hi Daniel, what about an Opposition Cloud, just as you did the Chavista Cloud? It would be interesting as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-33668724642323481982013-04-19T16:25:07.124+02:002013-04-19T16:25:07.124+02:00So, Daniel, do you think that the Army, while Chav...So, Daniel, do you think that the Army, while Chavez was still around, basically put up with the role of the Cubans in Venezuela, and now with Chavez gone and Maduro being 'the man', the Army will be less prone to 'put up with' the Cuban role in Venezuela??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-30184447364783163432013-04-19T16:24:26.077+02:002013-04-19T16:24:26.077+02:00My unsolicited advice would be to forget about the...My unsolicited advice would be to forget about the recount, but not about the results already reported by the CNE, which show that nearly 50% of the voting public voted for change. This is the important message to hammer home along with the related question for the chavistas: "what are you going to do with that 50% that voted against your project?" In Cuba, we never had the numbers to show the size of the opposition. So the castros could always say "que se vayan!", which really meant, if you don't leave, we will either execute you (mostly in the early days of the robolution), put you in jail, or make your life miserable if you make any noise. Occasionally, fidel would have to take the "que se vayan" offer back when it became clear that he was losing people he could not afford to lose: professionals, trained tradesmen, etc. But there was never a one-time accounting of the size of the growing diaspora, so it was always portrayed as a tiny minority. After 50 years of robolution, we now know that approximately 20% of the Cuban population voted with their feet, oars, etc. Venezuela now has the proof, without a need for any recount, that 50% of the country wants a different course. The strength of the opposition rests on that 50% number. I seriously doubt that a recount will lead to a change in the outcome of the election, but the problem (for the chavistas) still remains: "what are you going to do with that 50% that voted against your project?". And this is the problem that needs to be exploited by the opposition while their numbers are near that 50% mark.Miguel-O-Matichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09763665451173291083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-7078410412273356062013-04-19T13:54:35.893+02:002013-04-19T13:54:35.893+02:00Daniel, you are looking at this with more rational...Daniel, you are looking at this with more rationality than can be expected from the "primitive chavista" crowd. I base this conclusion on first-hand experienced with the "primitive castrista" crowd. For this type of crowd, it doesn't matter what "the other side" says, their reality conforms to what their leader(ship) says. Our leader says we won, and therefore we won. This whole vote counting thing is a baseless attack on our leader manufactured by the other side and their evil allies. Thus operates the mind of this crowd...Miguel-O-Matichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09763665451173291083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-23448747216123931242013-04-19T01:53:15.527+02:002013-04-19T01:53:15.527+02:00No, you did not beat me, I always voted against Ch...No, you did not beat me, I always voted against Chavez. Always.Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12128609182544333477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-23154571688246914042013-04-19T01:48:26.056+02:002013-04-19T01:48:26.056+02:00Like me, who have voted aganist Chávez and anythin...Like me, who have voted aganist Chávez and anything related to him since 1998 (beat you, Daniel!). And not out of hatred or anything, but because I didn't like (and still don't like) anything he stood for or represented. Voted NO on the constitution (and the constitutional assembly) because I've always thought that the problem wasn't the Constitution, but the fail in it's application. I was turning 23 the day Chávez got elected.Michel Garcianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-66516142202750052372013-04-18T22:52:47.296+02:002013-04-18T22:52:47.296+02:00The trick here is to discuss vote counts and other...The trick here is to discuss vote counts and other stuff. For primitive chavista, reminding them that the government does not want to count the votes it claims it has is at this point the only image that can stick with them.Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12128609182544333477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-15512365248917309862013-04-18T22:47:20.070+02:002013-04-18T22:47:20.070+02:00Diosdado and the army "in general" would...Diosdado and the army "in general" would have as little to do with Cuba as possible.Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12128609182544333477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-29112919011615667352013-04-18T22:46:41.725+02:002013-04-18T22:46:41.725+02:00Almost 2%. That is why I put the radical PSUV and ...Almost 2%. That is why I put the radical PSUV and the commies all together in the graph because there are more true lefties in the PSUV.Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12128609182544333477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-29502037375941696022013-04-18T22:41:51.620+02:002013-04-18T22:41:51.620+02:00Absolutely agree with that last statement. Discuss...Absolutely agree with that last statement. Discussing vote counts at this point is akin to rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic. It is a pointless waste of time & energy surely to be exploited by the other side.Miguel-O-Matichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09763665451173291083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-62099458280201548582013-04-18T22:36:49.987+02:002013-04-18T22:36:49.987+02:00What's your take on the Cuban connection? Are ...What's your take on the Cuban connection? Are there disagreements within the Chavista cloud about what the role of the Cubans should be?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-52387799269732724722013-04-18T22:22:48.570+02:002013-04-18T22:22:48.570+02:00I know that basically all parties are left of cent...I know that basically all parties are left of center. Daniel, do you think that the communist community is that big in venezuela or chavismo? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04499850314276069211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-23145630832956678042013-04-18T20:50:53.915+02:002013-04-18T20:50:53.915+02:00Agree with your post but there needs to be done mo...Agree with your post but there needs to be done more right now. Today I spoke to a member of the Iranian opposition and their case looks a lot like the Venezuelan on and we can learn something from them because they lost. He said the only thing we can do is to try and cause a divide within Chavismo and a divide between Chavismo and the army. As long as they are a coherent team, everything will stay as it is.<br /><br />What we do not want to do is keep discussing vote counts.. We are WAY past this point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-44487062431565432772013-04-18T20:26:54.920+02:002013-04-18T20:26:54.920+02:00hey, props where its earned, well done Daniel, f...hey, props where its earned, well done Daniel, for seeing BS when its right there staring at you.Pookeyehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16147498197091504348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-11377127725735737102013-04-18T20:18:03.238+02:002013-04-18T20:18:03.238+02:00That too :)That too :)Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12128609182544333477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-32208678296276279912013-04-18T20:09:32.511+02:002013-04-18T20:09:32.511+02:00Never mind that I disagree on many aspects of the ...Never mind that I disagree on many aspects of the Constitution which explain the other vote NO in December 1999.Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12128609182544333477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-61404034251003471062013-04-18T20:05:31.534+02:002013-04-18T20:05:31.534+02:00because i am old enough, experienced enough to kno...because i am old enough, experienced enough to know that a constituion is only as good as the people who apply it.Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12128609182544333477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-50826199596510701192013-04-18T19:55:27.596+02:002013-04-18T19:55:27.596+02:00He is proud because he recognized B.S. whe he saw ...He is proud because he recognized B.S. whe he saw it and the rest did not. are you slow?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04499850314276069211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-61902313592641478392013-04-18T19:26:55.952+02:002013-04-18T19:26:55.952+02:00One question, exactly why are you proud of voting ...One question, exactly why are you proud of voting NO on the 99 Constitution?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-34461295912573927762013-04-18T19:22:33.953+02:002013-04-18T19:22:33.953+02:00Your analysis is spot on. Maduro and Castro also k...Your analysis is spot on. Maduro and Castro also know this, this is why I believe we won't see any election in a loooooong time, if ever under Maduro@pablortegahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13328033890403606724noreply@blogger.com