tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post3519189915117910293..comments2024-03-26T00:37:34.943+01:00Comments on Venezuela News And Views: The organized chaos of VenezuelaDanielhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12128609182544333477noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-65646996903409613572013-02-23T18:24:02.611+01:002013-02-23T18:24:02.611+01:00You may want to rephrase what you say because that...You may want to rephrase what you say because that is exactly how bigots start their speeches : "I have nothing against X" "soem of my best friends are X" X being black, gay, jew, women, martians....Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12128609182544333477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-71756681101575414872013-02-23T15:07:24.539+01:002013-02-23T15:07:24.539+01:00Actually, I agree with what you say here. From the...Actually, I agree with what you say here. From the context of the paragraphs around the one I posted, it seemed to me that you were painting a bad picture for Chavez supporters, but I question that. For one thing, they haven't used "every possible trick" yet. Just wait. They might even get more than 55% if they put enough pressure on the top two or three candidates that the opposition can come up with.<br /><br />PaulAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-82217462570029139272013-02-23T04:36:19.233+01:002013-02-23T04:36:19.233+01:00Daniel. As far as gay rights are concerned regardi...Daniel. As far as gay rights are concerned regarding this post, I have NOTHING against gay people. I am not in any position to be anybody's judge in any way as far as things go in this life. I just wanted to make you aware of this, and please don't think anyone speaks for me if we seem to have a similar view in one area.Lesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-26379436584787585732013-02-23T00:31:50.941+01:002013-02-23T00:31:50.941+01:00Syd, it's a kook. We got millions on both side...Syd, it's a kook. We got millions on both sides of the dance.<br />Halfemptyhttp://www.ninme.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-34925487825375262682013-02-22T22:26:04.397+01:002013-02-22T22:26:04.397+01:00Vídeo de la reacción terrible de Maduro y Diosdado...Vídeo de la reacción terrible de Maduro y Diosdado cuando se enteraron que era el fin de Chavez.<br /><br />http://www.muerachavez.blogspot.ru/2013/02/reaccion-de-maduro-y-diosdado-cuando-se.html#.USfPdx3HuSoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-40682985756744964562013-02-22T20:20:06.027+01:002013-02-22T20:20:06.027+01:00To all the Chavez = Obama crowd
I have already ad...To all the Chavez = Obama crowd<br /><br />I have already addressed this ridiculous point once and another time.<br /><br />You cannot compare apples and oranges because the historical and political and social differences are too huge to bear any comparison between the occasional tidbit of coincidence and the reality.<br /><br />I urge you to learn as much as you can about US history, or at least as much as I do, before you do such comparisons which are, I am sorry to say that, puerile.<br /><br />Also, for those internet warriors, take a breather and look how those wars have been led against Clinton, Bush, and now Obama (before I do not know). They are all of the same nature. That is a worthy comparison to take.<br /><br />And with this this discussion is close as far as comparisons are concerned.Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12128609182544333477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-32450337923571513182013-02-22T20:07:46.740+01:002013-02-22T20:07:46.740+01:00Daniel A sus ordenes.Daniel A sus ordenes.Kennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-60387844157773266162013-02-22T20:04:32.215+01:002013-02-22T20:04:32.215+01:00OK, let's cut this out. I cannot leave this bl...OK, let's cut this out. I cannot leave this blog unattended and after some people wonder how come I prefer a comment section with a dozen comments at most.....<br /><br />Ken<br /><br />I am sorry but I have to go with Syd on that one because of your ill use of sarcasm. Sarcasm only works when you you say it aloud in front of people are your body language cues allow some around you to get it. In case the target gets upset they will be able to step in and cool things off.<br /><br />In a written world only, such as this blog, sarcasm must be handled with great care, in proper context, and when in doubt about its clarity accompanied by some adequate smiley face. I am afraid that if you implied sarcasm in some of your comments, you missed them.<br /><br />I am sorry if I sound maybe a tad school marmish but after ten years in this business I have learned enough by experience to know that this is the way it works, at least for serious blogs. I hope you understand.Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12128609182544333477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-86780903077963401462013-02-22T19:49:27.471+01:002013-02-22T19:49:27.471+01:00I am not sure I get your point Paul.
What I am tr...I am not sure I get your point Paul.<br /><br />What I am trying to convey is that in the best case scenario FOR chavismo is that Chavez recovers enough to resume office. However if that were to happen he could not rule the way he did before.<br /><br />Now that I cleared up my point, I hope, care to clear up yours?Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12128609182544333477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-17775093981410161692013-02-22T19:46:06.031+01:002013-02-22T19:46:06.031+01:00Syd Apparently you are not familiar with sarcasm. ...Syd Apparently you are not familiar with sarcasm. I had you on the wizard of smart pedestal, but you have fallen today. Apparently the point I was making went way over your head.Kennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-16651338493251332342013-02-22T19:44:29.887+01:002013-02-22T19:44:29.887+01:00I would not be so fast putting up numbers on such ...I would not be so fast putting up numbers on such cultural attitudes that depend on too many factors.Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12128609182544333477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-39266611443090062412013-02-22T19:36:37.454+01:002013-02-22T19:36:37.454+01:00Ken dixit @ 12:07PM:
"Douglas If you are a Ve...Ken dixit @ 12:07PM:<br />"Douglas If you are a Venezuelan or have Venezuelan roots, you don't know anything about the US, because you are probably a tool and a spy for the Cuba-Zuelian axis. And furthermore are an ignorant, bigoted, racist, fool." sydnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-41619546908645260762013-02-22T19:22:44.482+01:002013-02-22T19:22:44.482+01:00To Ken: ?????????????????. Name calling and basel...To Ken: ?????????????????. Name calling and baseless accusations do not a discussion make....... What do you really think?Douglas Novonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-67347243377945614892013-02-22T19:00:39.399+01:002013-02-22T19:00:39.399+01:00Note to self and others, always agree with Syd or ...Note to self and others, always agree with Syd or you will be accused of being a racist, ignorant, nutter etc.Kennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-85748638714713013112013-02-22T18:47:50.013+01:002013-02-22T18:47:50.013+01:00Syd Very good example of name calling. Wow. The re...Syd Very good example of name calling. Wow. The real Syd comes through. Hmmmm. As I suspected. Kennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-52397518425584240312013-02-22T18:35:59.034+01:002013-02-22T18:35:59.034+01:00Sure, Ken. Never take responsibility for your writ...Sure, Ken. Never take responsibility for your written word. <br />http://daniel-venezuela.blogspot.ca/2013/02/the-organized-chaos-of-venezuela.html?showComment=1361551070658<br />You wrote that without attribution, without backup. Therefore, assume the consequences of our opinion about you, stated or otherwise. Here's mine: You're a nutter. Find a blog with the political bent that you seek. For, this one will never satisfy your needs.sydnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-37446203206521014652013-02-22T18:23:12.837+01:002013-02-22T18:23:12.837+01:00Syd Those aren't my opinions at all. Those are...Syd Those aren't my opinions at all. Those are the words that get thrown at those us from the US if we dare comment on the Venezuelan scene. All of those words have been used in the comments above.Kennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-62751970622998221282013-02-22T18:14:55.676+01:002013-02-22T18:14:55.676+01:00"Free speech does not mean freedom from criti..."Free speech does not mean freedom from criticism!"<br /><br />Thank you for your sanity, Norske, and brevity. I'd add another:<br /><br />Free speech does not mean going around ranting without backup and logic, and without expecting criticism as a consequence.<br />sydnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-57192978923518199192013-02-22T17:45:41.017+01:002013-02-22T17:45:41.017+01:00Wow. The real Ken comes through. Hmmmm. As I suspe...Wow. The real Ken comes through. Hmmmm. As I suspected.sydnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-3523808605571449502013-02-22T17:45:09.953+01:002013-02-22T17:45:09.953+01:00To Bostero:
I registered to vote in Florida in th...To Bostero:<br /><br />I registered to vote in Florida in the waning days of the 70's, as a Republican. I did so because they represented for me the choice more in line with what I wanted for government to be for me and for those around me. I certainly wish for more fiscal sanity, but unfortunately the Tea Party stands for way more than that.<br /><br />The Republican party today is nowhere near those ideals, both the Christian right and folks like the candidate that affirmed that rape victims could make their bodies not get pregnant if they wanted to have taken over and now affect the positions that Republicans now have to stand for to be elected.<br /><br />So yes, believing a woman can decide just by instructing her body not to become pregnant when she has been raped, or that the earth has been around for 6-7 thousand years, or that we must support Israel only because this will bring along the second coming of Christ makes anyone who believes that a nincompoop in my book, and not deserving my attention any longer than needed to confirm that those indeed are their beliefs.<br /><br />Fortunately for Venezuela, we do not have those beliefs in the mainstream, although it is interesting to note that many influential Chavistas, including Mr. Chavez, share some of those same idiotic positions that members of the US tea Party embrace.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17982740239261883042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-32732716055306733442013-02-22T17:43:00.429+01:002013-02-22T17:43:00.429+01:00Evidently, Ken, you're having trouble assuming...Evidently, Ken, you're having trouble assuming responsibility for your broad brush strokes, without providing specifics (yes, names would be helpful) in this little rant of yours:<br /><br />"Also you may be in the process of discovering that most of the readers of this blog are committed socialists themselves. There is an elitist group in Venezuela that doesn't like the regime for good reasons,(civil rights and gross incompetency) but at the same time feel that they are the ones entitled to rule,like they used to be able to. Part of their frustration with the regime is that they are on the outside looking in. Part of their frustration is based on "the current "socialists" aren't doing it right and are giving socialism a bad name. "<br />http://daniel-venezuela.blogspot.ca/2013/02/the-organized-chaos-of-venezuela.html?showComment=1361518961256<br /><br />Keep lashing out with that blunderbuss, located, where? Ohio? Or is that Idaho, or Iowa? While you rant on those who grew up in Venezuela and are now living outside it.<br /><br />Some folks can't afford a mirror, I guess.sydnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-4934141243916700422013-02-22T17:37:50.658+01:002013-02-22T17:37:50.658+01:00Douglas If you are a Venezuelan or have Venezuelan...Douglas If you are a Venezuelan or have Venezuelan roots, you don't know anything about the US, because you are probably a tool and a spy for the Cuba-Zuelian axis. And furthermore are an ignorant, bigoted, racist, fool. Kennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-29883847491676853592013-02-22T17:26:38.085+01:002013-02-22T17:26:38.085+01:00My two cents worth: I live and run a business in t...My two cents worth: I live and run a business in the US. Obama is no Chavez, The democratic party is no PSUV. Venezuela is not the US of the future, no matter how much you combine the words socialism and Obama in any sentence. The problem with republicans: They let an extremist movement hijack them and their last stay in the White House was the most anti-republican principles presidency in a long time. The US debt is what it is thanks to cutting taxes before paying down debt, funding 2 wars entirely with loans and cutting/eliminating basic financial regulation thru denial of resources, all fixtures of the past republican administration. It is true the the US has a debt problem and that tough decisions must be made in long term entitlement programs, defense, the size of government and taxes. Neither party seems to be willing to tackle these things but unfortunately american society is even less willing. The politics just reflect the will, (or no will), of the people. Until that changes the US will not get out of the quagmire it is in right now. Douglas Novonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-17868838067218960712013-02-22T17:24:32.208+01:002013-02-22T17:24:32.208+01:00Bostero para siempre:
1. This blog was not design...Bostero para siempre:<br /><br />1. This blog was not designed to vent your political frustrations with the US Democratic Party, or Obama. (See blogger's comment rules, 3rd sentence.) When you and Ken repeatedly do so, you hijack the purpose of these comments. As such, you should seek a blog -- and there are many out there -- that caters to your needs, rather than this one, which focuses on Venezuela, the chavista mess that it's become, and related issues.<br /><br />2. Just a side observation. When you say that all Tea Partiers want is fiscal sanity, why would they behave, to this objective outsider, as anything but sane?<br /><br />3. For the record, I am not a socialist/antiamerican/anti-democrat/anti-republican. Nor was I ever during my decade, living in your country. I believe in a free market with reasonable controls from the State. I believe in an efficient State apparatus. I believe in the rule of law, and in checks and balances. And I believe in two (or three)-tiered health services, one of which is paid for solely by contributions to that State.<br /><br />4. Also for the record, Venezuela has a very long history of left-of-center politics and government. I suggest you calibrate your vision of the country with that historical perspective in mind. That is before you start ranting on the "socialistm/antiamericanism in this blog". In spite of some of their virtues, tea partiers would absolutely fail to succeed in Venezuela. Period. Chávez was initially voted in, albeit on a false platform, because the majority saw his vision as necessary, to fix the problems of the past, in which a majority -- still -- recognize some responsibility. <br /><br />5. Final questions: <br /><br />a. In that you're so loose with your labelling, care to name who exactly is antiamerican among the commenters on this blog? <br /><br />b. In that you see this antimericanism as an undercurrent, why on earth would you be spending time reading this blog, likely coming back time and again? #doesn'tcompute.sydnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-38219260137592950292013-02-22T17:13:52.724+01:002013-02-22T17:13:52.724+01:00I forgot to say in my original post, that some of ...I forgot to say in my original post, that some of those in the Venezuelan ex-pat community with elitist roots view themselves as the wizards of smart. Only they are entitled to comment on the current state of political affairs. The rest of us are racist,bigots,idiots and uninformed fools. Some of them haven't set foot in the patria for years.Kennoreply@blogger.com