tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post4717664332267805992..comments2024-03-26T00:37:34.943+01:00Comments on Venezuela News And Views: A not so victorious campaign: Chavez es una encuesta ambulanteDanielhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12128609182544333477noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-86270357045182564642012-09-11T23:49:27.447+02:002012-09-11T23:49:27.447+02:00Enjoyed it so much I walked the trenchlines where ...Enjoyed it so much I walked the trenchlines where he fought.<br /><br />Everyone knows the atrocity business swung both ways, naive to consider otherwise. <br /><br />Mind you Franco was still signing death sentences during the seventies, before breakfast I believe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-32693087695446250232012-09-11T20:05:12.213+02:002012-09-11T20:05:12.213+02:00Does anyone remember what Capriles found when he w...Does anyone remember what Capriles found when he went to take possession of the Governorship of Miranda? All offices stripped of anything of value, all of the files destroyed, and all back accounts drained.<br /><br />By the time Chavismo is done, public institutions, companies and offices will be similarly decimated. By the time this is done, all of the state enterprises will be stripped of anything that can be moved and unable to function.Roynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-91007365185769086062012-09-11T15:58:52.991+02:002012-09-11T15:58:52.991+02:00A hint of assumed pink suggested by a neighbour an...<i>A hint of assumed pink suggested by a neighbour and it was off to the firing squad. But that was Spain.</i><br /><br />I suggest that you read George Orwell's <a href="http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=homage+to+catalonia+free+download&oq=homage+to+catalonia+free+&gs_l=serp.1.2.0j0i30l3.218.5786.1.10231.7.4.1.2.2.0.147.584.0j4.4.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.Rn1lzJOW2o4&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=69259e6e7da2331&biw=1280&bih=878" rel="nofollow">Homage to Catalonia</a>. The atrocities went both ways.InfoNazinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-65337432949762024422012-09-11T05:36:49.058+02:002012-09-11T05:36:49.058+02:00Anonymous, why do you consistently misspell "...Anonymous, why do you consistently misspell "Chavez"?Steve Mnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-24201844551459455752012-09-11T02:34:15.932+02:002012-09-11T02:34:15.932+02:00Currently reading "The Silence and the Scorpi...Currently reading "The Silence and the Scorpion". It confirms what a lot of us already knew, that the head honcho and his henchmen, JVR in particular will stop at nothing to stay in power, lots of blood on their hands. A sobering read especially when the guy is threatening civil war. If it happens this time, like in April 11 which he provoked, lets just hope he will be the first casualty. It nearly happened then, it could happen again.Charlynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-20781592190785229912012-09-11T01:44:35.635+02:002012-09-11T01:44:35.635+02:00And the Republicans changed clothes overnight and ...And the Republicans changed clothes overnight and became the most vociferous supporters of their own defeat ! A hint of assumed pink suggested by a neighbour and it was off to the firing squad. But that was Spain.<br /><br />On the suggestion of a Chaves inspired civil war there's a good chance that he would be precipitating his much anticipated departure. I suspect there are many Latin Americans with an axe to grind. Some have waited decades, others became messy drug war enemies and some just lost too much in many different forms. <br /><br />Whilst a restrained anti Chaves Castro democratic approach under the present circumstances is admirable it may be that a stolen Opposition victory could unleash a silent yet pointed action, or series of actions, that instantaneously changes the core sources of upheaval.<br /><br />I cannot see civil unrest as recently seen in Arab countries. That being the case Chaves is only threatening. However 'be careful what you wish for', as they say?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-55856492610945855242012-09-10T21:15:16.290+02:002012-09-10T21:15:16.290+02:00I read on Twitter last night that before his ouste...<i>I read on Twitter last night that before his ouster Franko of Spain threatened the same thing. We can see where that got him.</i><br /><br />I don't know about "Franko of Spain," but <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Franco" rel="nofollow">Francisco Franco of Spain</a> began the Civil War in 1936, and won by 1939. Francisco Franco died in his sleep in 1975 as Generalissimo/Caudillo/President of Spain, after over three decades in power.<br /><br />Death from old age ousted Francisco Franco from power.<br /><br />Only a twit would use Twitter as a history textbook.<br />InfoNazinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-68531656231480209592012-09-10T20:45:51.113+02:002012-09-10T20:45:51.113+02:00Boy, do I ever agree with your comment, Daniel: &q...Boy, do I ever agree with your comment, Daniel: "This was never a revolution, it was a narco-mob gang making its way to power."<br /><br />One can understand the deluded young and not-so-young, the world over, attaching themselves to the earlier manufactured fantasy of a revolution for the people.<br /><br />But you really have to question university-educated die-hards, the Eva Golingers, the Weisbrots, and those whose worldly experience may have trumped their education, such as the Sean Penns, et al.sydnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-74331035206274638462012-09-10T20:36:26.363+02:002012-09-10T20:36:26.363+02:00Outside of chavistas, I think most Venezuelan vote...Outside of chavistas, I think most Venezuelan voters would dismiss outright the credibility of the Carter Center. I know I do.sydnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-64750542554159372252012-09-10T20:32:24.873+02:002012-09-10T20:32:24.873+02:00They will also destroy all incriminating documents...<i>They will also destroy all incriminating documents related to contracts & projects which is probably 90% of the the documentation.</i><br /><br />Will there be mountains of documentation, as the Nazis produced and later tried to destroy? I always thought that the hallmark of chavismo was to avoid, as much as possible, producing any evidence on paper (or hard drives).sydnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-68346942648210151092012-09-10T17:45:30.873+02:002012-09-10T17:45:30.873+02:00Many Chavistas have good homes, great cars, may ev...Many Chavistas have good homes, great cars, may even have fantastic apartments at the beach, and all like to travel outside the country for holidays (not to Cuba, of course). What do they want, a civil war? I think not.<br /><br />Ann19Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-3384740992622584272012-09-10T17:32:08.492+02:002012-09-10T17:32:08.492+02:00The below article leaves a lot to be desired.The t...The below article leaves a lot to be desired.The title says says it all :<br /><br /><br />"Centro Carter: candidatos deben dar garantías para bajar tensión"<br /><br /><br />They are equating both candidates in the typical "Liberal" fashion of moral equivalency.A more objective view would point out the fact that Capriles is actually almost too moderate in his desire to appease and conciliate.<br /><br />They also claim that the media is polarized while failing to point out the key fact that television is what most matters and there, Chavez has an overwhelming advantage with only Globovision ( with limited geographical coverage) as the lonely holdout.Only in the press do we have both camps present but it is much less relevant than TV is, especially for areas more pro -Chavez.<br /><br />And what about this doozy ?<br /><br />“Por un lado, hay un sistema electoral, en el sentido más estrecho del término, confiable, pero por el otro hay una sociedad profundamente polarizada y unas condiciones marcadamente inequitativas”<br /><br /><br /><br />Only once does the article imply that Chavez is the worse offender, when it is stated that he offers no guarantees wheras Capriles does offer them, however in the context of so much moral equivalency, it comes across as an after thought.<br /><br />The title should have read:<br /><br />HUGO CHAVEZ DEBE DAR GARANTIAS PARA BAJAR LAS TENSIONES, ASI COMO LO HIZO CAPRILESfirepighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15158275219887987252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-50268249418551915952012-09-10T17:28:03.715+02:002012-09-10T17:28:03.715+02:00Chavez is clearly trying to place the blame on the...Chavez is clearly trying to place the blame on the opposition for violence he plans on initiating.<br /><br />If the violence appears, social media may be the best way to stop it. Videos and photos of Thugo Chavez' storm troopers attacking civilians beamed around Venezuela and the world is the only way to get other countries to react and stop the violence. Chavez will likely try to imitate Assad in Syria, Amendinajad in Iran, and Castro in Cuba. All are illegitimate leaders who turned to violence and all have not faced international intervention. The international community must be involved from the minute any violence starts.<br /><br />Chavis has many supporters but Chavez and they will be no better than thieves if violence occurs.Ronaldonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-27274898692319235592012-09-10T16:53:25.342+02:002012-09-10T16:53:25.342+02:00Of course, but for the dumb assed in the cult. Ch...Of course, but for the dumb assed in the cult. Chavez campaign now is aiemd at limiting as much as possible abstention in his camp and thus he has knelled down to primal level. Not that it will work, people sense this type of thing otherwise they would never be able to leave cults...Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12128609182544333477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-40270130806311517052012-09-10T16:47:33.308+02:002012-09-10T16:47:33.308+02:00Be reassured: the hole is already there. They are...Be reassured: the hole is already there. They are just scraping for tidbits.Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12128609182544333477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-81741380650621441532012-09-10T16:17:17.619+02:002012-09-10T16:17:17.619+02:00"...The opposition would have had, in print, ..."...The opposition would have had, in print, a ,secret program`?..." Let´s not forget that many Chavistas also believe in the authenticity of the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" and all sorts of conspiracy theories. So this propaganda, dumb as it is, may even work.Stefannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-3503305294002955832012-09-10T14:47:19.839+02:002012-09-10T14:47:19.839+02:00In what world would the president of a country be ...In what world would the president of a country be allowed to threaten a "civil war" if they lose an election? Why even bother to have the election? Just take over now & go straight to point B.<br /><br />I read on Twitter last night that before his ouster Franko of Spain threatened the same thing. We can see where that got him.<br /><br />I really don't think the Venezuelan people in the large majority, Chavista or not, will support any kind of armed conflict for very long. They need food on the table on a daily basis - no one buys for more than a day or 2. If shipments are blocked they will act based on their stomachs.<br /><br />Do I expect problems on 8O? I do. Will they last? - I don't think so. <br /><br />What has always worried me is the 3 months between the election & the turning over of power. It's way too much time for them to do many things not the least of which will be to strip the treasury of any money & leave a huge hole for HCR to fill. They will also destroy all incriminating documents related to contracts & projects which is probably 90% of the the documentation. There will be nothing there when HCR's team shows up to take over.<br /><br />We are headed for some pretty unstable months. Island Canucknoreply@blogger.com