tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post8780679159756372755..comments2024-03-26T00:37:34.943+01:00Comments on Venezuela News And Views: September 27Danielhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12128609182544333477noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-41621901930423907052010-09-18T19:59:38.205+02:002010-09-18T19:59:38.205+02:00Daniel,
He doesn't need the army or the polic...Daniel,<br /><br />He doesn't need the army or the police. All he needs to do is announce that that they have betrayed the Revolution and that they no longer have his protection. With a wink and nod to the Patrullas, their lives in Venezuela wouldn't be worth spit.<br /><br />In Iran, the violence against the protesters was not perpetrated by the military or the police, so much as by the Basij, their hard-line volunteer militia. Are the Chavista militias any less committed or "fundamentalist"? And if you think that Venezuela is, somehow, inherently more civilized than Iran, I would argue the opposite.Roynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-21716321339261602642010-09-18T19:41:30.620+02:002010-09-18T19:41:30.620+02:00Daniel,
What about the softer side of cuba lately...Daniel,<br /><br />What about the softer side of cuba lately....Do you think this is a true turn towards something better there or is it related towards these elections and after it's back to normal?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-70622843281498702812010-09-18T18:27:28.474+02:002010-09-18T18:27:28.474+02:00If Chavez manages to " win" the election...If Chavez manages to " win" the elections as announced by the National poll,it would mean a big triumph for him.The message would be that instead of " minor" inconveniences like a bad economy, scarcities, etc., the " love" of the people for him would be unaffected.<br />This is called narcissistic mirroring.<br />If Chavez wins, it would hook into the narcissism of his followers( 'if he wins- I win') and allow him a free pass to carry on his project.<br /><br />The fact that the deck was stacked in his favor and that there may have been fraud will be irrelevant: porque el gano gano gano!!<br /><br />Venezuelan people in general as well as Chavez have too much sense of self preservation to go all wild with politically motivated violence.It is not the Arab world where self immolation is common.Violence appears more in criminal situations where personal gain is involved.<br /><br />Narcissism is NOT the same as Sociopathy.Chavez is evil but he is very self preserving.<br /><br />If Chavez is still supported under the present circumstances, just wait till oil prices take off again.firepigettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17348890269608169297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-56216898336224953602010-09-18T16:45:00.686+02:002010-09-18T16:45:00.686+02:00roy
fine, except that you need people to go out a...roy<br /><br />fine, except that you need people to go out and shoot people. if they do not want to do so then you are back at an april 11 situation- if people know they lost the election they will be more reluctant to go out and shoot. we are not in iran here no matter how fundamentalist a few people may appear.Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12128609182544333477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-17329857156651337512010-09-18T15:22:39.210+02:002010-09-18T15:22:39.210+02:00I believe the fake numbers are already programmed ...I believe the fake numbers are already programmed in, just like in the past elections in Venezuela and more recently Iran. Remember how the first amendment vote would have turned out had Baduel not intervened. Unfortunately, that did not work out well for him. Who will prevent chavez and the CNE from doing it again?concernednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-11788575569219824362010-09-18T15:03:33.893+02:002010-09-18T15:03:33.893+02:00According to this poll published in El Nacional, t...According to this poll published in <a href="javascript:void(0);" rel="nofollow">El Nacional</a>, the Chavistas are set to win a majority. Since El Nacional isn't pro-Chavez, I assume this poll has some legitimacy. Are the Venezuelan people gluttons for punishment?ConsDemohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15312125878554292999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-61280428328084182702010-09-18T14:40:47.823+02:002010-09-18T14:40:47.823+02:00I have been thinking about the various scenarios f...I have been thinking about the various scenarios for a couple of weeks now, trying to anticipate what might occur. If there was ever a time in my life to have a crystal ball, now is it. Alas, I am fresh out, so logic and deduction will have to do instead.<br /><br />I agree with Daniel in that the current status quo will be changed by this election, for better or worse. What we have now, is not working for anyone, Chavez included. He has already stated his intention to radicalize his policies after the election, without regard to the outcome, and I tend to accept that at face value.<br /><br />Much of Daniel's analysis assumes that Chavez will act rationally, but that is simply not the case. Look at Chavez's personality, "Malignant Narcissist": "It is all about me. Me, me, ME! He will perceive any loss in the AN of more than 1/3 of the delegates as a personal betrayal. He will blame everyone connected with election and they will see and feel his wrath. So, expect him to launch a major purge of Chavismo. He will couch it in terms of purging his revolution of the corrupt elements so that Venezuela can return to the "true path toward 21st Century Socialism". This purge could even be violent, as he needs to be feared by the general population at this point. The message will be: "Coño! If he would do THAT to his own supporters, what would he do to me??!!"<br /><br />I would say that the degree of his visceral and violent reaction will be proportional to amount of the loss. If he were to actually lose a majority in the AN, he would blame not only the PSUV officials, but even the public itself. His reaction might be beyond predictable, and the end game might be upon us even sooner than we think.Roynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-54246238735771592292010-09-18T14:39:49.630+02:002010-09-18T14:39:49.630+02:00"One of the penalties of not participating in..."One of the penalties of not participating in politics is that you will be governed by your inferiors." <br /><br />PlatoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-51758063492417264382010-09-18T13:49:09.127+02:002010-09-18T13:49:09.127+02:00What do you think would happen then?
Letters ste...<i>What do you think would happen then? </i><br /><br />Letters sternly written from the usual suspects? Perhaps a frown?<br /><br />Don't hope for much in that scenario.Halfemptyhttp://www. ninme.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4080946.post-1981343343596316562010-09-18T06:45:28.844+02:002010-09-18T06:45:28.844+02:00You missed one possible scenario: Scenarios 3 or 4...You missed one possible scenario: Scenarios 3 or 4 are about to happen, so Chavez orders the CNE to simply ignore the actual results and publish obviously fake numbers. He's caught red handed by MUD and, in an unbelievable turn of events, international observers decide to actually notice the wrongdoings and decry the obvious fraud.<br /><br />What do you think would happen then?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com