You are idiots. There was an election, you lost. That Hillary got more popular vote is irrelevant: it is a federal country, a union of 50 countries and thus the will of a majority of former independent countries is a must, like it or not. This is the reason of the electoral college and trust me, in a presidential system like the US you need all what you can to make it harder the election of a president and control him/her. Instead of rioting in the streets think about what else could you have done to get more votes for Hillary. Did you canvass enough? Did you offer to carry people to voting stations? Did you attend fervently Hillary meetings, or those from her surrogates? Did you at least make sure to let your family and acquaintances know that because you were gay/black/latino/etc. their vote for Trump would affect you directly? How long did it take you to shift from Bernie to Hillary?
Listen guys, I went through that. In fact I have been going on through 17 years of unfairly losing elections and being manipulated by people who are intellectually less advanced than me. Yes, I an owning what I just said. My current president is a true asshole. Compared to Maduro Trump is a hardworking towering genius. Even the dumb rednecks that voted for him are better than the equivalent that vote for Maduro: rednecks do work and pay taxes, last time I checked anyway. Here not only they do not pay taxes but as long as they receive a free bag of something, even if it becomes a rarer occurrence, they keep supporting Maduro.
You do not like Trump ideas? That makes two of us. Protesting Trump electoral victory only helps him. Time will come to protest him, right now it is not only a disservice to your cause but it is a disservice to democracy. Or is it that things like Black Lives Matter who came to Venezuela to support Maduro are affecting the belief in democracy and making too many black people stay home and allow for Trump to carry, say, Michigan?
Now it is not the time to riot, it is the time for introspection. Since you feel so superior to the Trump voter (or the chavista voter as the case may be) do as Paul Krugman did or I did in 2006, write about it, think about it, understand why your side lost, allow yourself to be bitter, to think the worst of the other side, to grieve, but remain constructive. Then you will be able to do something about it. Do not be a spoiled brat. Trust me, Hillary is not going to join you in the streets. Nor is Bernie for that matter. Nor should they.
If you are still not convinced by my words, then be my guest, visit Venezuela and stay a while where you will be beaten by your government for protesting even though your elections were totally rigged, and with the public knowledge of that. Please, do not pass for victims. You had 8 years of Obama. If you did not do anything out of it, it is your fault, not Trump's. Or Hillary, or mine for that matter.
There goes to tell you that a Liberal can be as unpolitically correct as any.
Trump will be a good President. Have faith. Love you. Keep up the good work.
ReplyDeleteFirst the Soviet Union, now Europe, is it still unthinkable that the 50 stars go their merry way eventually?
ReplyDeleteOr is it that things like Black Lives Matter who came to Venezuela to support Maduro are affecting the belief in democracy and making too many black people stay home and allow for Trump to carry, say, Michigan?
ReplyDeleteI didn't realize that. From December 2015: Black Lives Matter Co-Founder and BLM Movement Hearts Venezuela's Maduro. Love the tweet BLM Co-Founder Opal Tometti sent: Currently in Venezuela. Such a relief to be in a place where there is intelligent discourse.
Goodness gracious!
Daniel, you might reserve some of your well-deserved wrath at Hillary, who has been friendly with BLM. In the current climate in the US, Republicans who object to BLM will get the "racist" label thrown at them.
Since you feel so superior to the Trump voter (or the chavista voter as the case may be) do as Paul Krugman did or I did in 2006, write about it, think about it, understand why your side lost, allow yourself to be bitter, to think the worst of the other side, to grieve, but remain constructive.
I would not term Krugman's essay thoughtful and constructive. Here is an excerpt:
What we do know is that people like me, and probably like most readers of The New York Times, truly didn’t understand the country we live in....
We thought that the nation, while far from having transcended racial prejudice and misogyny, had become vastly more open and tolerant over time.
We thought that the great majority of Americans valued democratic norms and the rule of law.
It turns out that we were wrong. There turn out to be a huge number of people — white people, living mainly in rural areas — who don’t share at all our idea of what America is about. For them, it is about blood and soil, about traditional patriarchy and racial hierarchy.
Herr Dr. Nobel Laureate Krugman: "I've corrected my mistake. Now I understand the American people." No, Herr Dr. Nobel Laureate Krugman, you haven't corrected your mistake- you've compounded it.
About the only game the Democrats have these days is to throw insults at those who disagree with them; racist/bigoted/sexist/homophobic/islamophobic/deplorables/unredeemable. And more. Herr Dr. Nobel Laureate Krugman did more of the same when he claimed to NOW understand the American people. But then, it is exceedingly difficult for a pompous ass, of which Herr Dr. Nobel Laureate Krugman is a prime example, to understand the American people.
Disclosure: I used to vote Democrat.
Yes, but, he tried. Which is more than can be said for the democratic bulk.
DeleteAnd which may mean that my 2006 effort was more to your liking?😌
Yes, but, he tried. Which is more than can be said for the democratic bulk.
DeleteHerr Dr. Nobel Laureate Krugman tried? Well, at least he wrote something. But what did he write? In summary, this is what he wrote: "I didn't understand the country we live in. I didn't realize how bigoted/racist/sexist it was." That is not very trying hard at all. That is merely recycling an old Democrat meme: our opponents are racist/bigot/intolerant/deplorable/unredeemable/sexist/stupid/Islamophobe/homophobe and we're not. I call it the Chevy Chase approach."I'm Chevy Chase and you're not" becomes "You're racist and I'm not."
[Which is why Democrats despise the likes of Peter Thiel and Thomas Sowell, no? Diversity in thought is bad, apparently.]
BTW Daniel, if you haven't already, you might research the sexual orientation of some of the top BLM people. Of course, political orientation is what counts. Just to point out that there is a lot of diversity in the sexual orientation/political orientation intersection. Political scoundrels are found in all kinds of boxes.
And which may mean that my 2006 effort was more to your liking?
Well, yes. For one thing, you know Venezuela a lot better than Herr Dr. Nobel Laureate Krugman knows the US. And that is with there being much greater transparency of information in the US than in Venezuela. A further point is that Herr Dr. Nobel Laureate Krugman has a history of being way off the mark. Such as his predicting the stock market would tank if Trump were elected. Put this into a YouTube search: krugman get p3ned on canadian healthcare.
There were a lot of places that voted for Obama in 2012 that went for Trump in 2016. So these places were not racist for voting for Obama in 2012, but according to Herr Dr. Nobel Laureate Krugman, they were racist in 2016 for voting for Trump. Or are they now sexist?Dime/decime otro de vaqueros.
In my hometown, Hillary's percentage of the vote was 14% below what Obama got in 2012. [14/100] BTW, this 14% decrease wasn't a case of Democrat voters staying home, as turnout was greater in 2016. [Yes, voters staying home in Detroit had a result.] If one accuses the voters of my hometown of being sexist for not voting for Hillary as much as they did for Obama, I would point out that they have voted for a female candidate for governor.
Sexual orientation of BLM top organization? Cute 😉
DeleteSeriously, I could not care less about them. Since they came to support Maduro last December they can rot all I hell. Even the Opal chick blocked me on Twitter and I never insulted her, just trying to let her know that in Venezuela all lives matter. Maybe she assumed I meant white lives?
Opal chick blocked me on Twitter and I never insulted her, just trying to let her know that in Venezuela all lives matter.
DeleteWhich is typically how BLM responds to "all lives matter."
"dumb rednecks that voted for him"
ReplyDeleteFuck you. Americans who work, earn, and produce voted for someone where there is at least a chance that the people you voted for in your shithole of a country won't be in charge here.
I think you need to learn to read properly. I actually say what you say. In other words but that is the intent.
DeleteBut of course, trumpians seem totally devoid of self deprecation. So when a liberal like me self deprecates against
dumb democrats they cannot understand and look for the anti trumpian attack, the only possible discourse from liberals
You started your little rant just fine, then went down the hole like most leftists here in the U.S. I hope, HOPE they keep at it for at least another election cycle.
ReplyDeleteNice to see you can always dig yourself out from the dirty hole you lurk from.
DeleteAre you done? Did you feel better? Because your words didn't help a single person.
ReplyDeleteAs a Venezuelan immigrant and US Citizen, I did everything I could, and yes I campaigned and made phone calls. Your high horse here does not instruct, inform, assuage, it does nothing. It just projects your own judgment without accomplishing anything constructive.
You have my support and esteem, but please don't write anything like this ever again. It's beneath you.
Besides the obvious that I will write about what the fuck I want to write about (The alt-right should not have all the fun), I fail to see your point. You voted for Clinton I Assume? Not clear. You were part of the loiterers? Which may be one reason you left Venezuela since we have been loitering for soon 18 years for nothing.
DeleteAt any rate my text was not designed to bring any comfort to whomever. Just in case?